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  • How do you forgive someone who has done you very, very wrong?

    Family - 4 hours ago

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    Its been 2 1/2 years since i last ttalked to my mother. she met my daughter once and has never seen my son. i want very much for her to be in my life but i am finding it hard to forgive her for kicking me out of the house at 18 and calling my husband the devil. she's tried to buy me back but she wants nothing to do with me as long as i'm with my husband. she's never really been there for me as long as i can remember but she is still my mom and the only parent i have left. i truly love her but i don't know how to forgive her for the horros and disappointments she's caused me to have through my life.
  • This boy in my class keeps....?

    Other - Family & Relationships - 5 hours ago

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    hitting me...like punching me in the arm and arm and shoulder...he did it 6 times today and it was only a 4 hour day at school.... and then he was like were leaving at 11:30 and i was no 11:25 and he was like NO and like pushed me into my desk with his boddy...im only in 17 grade and 13 and i go to a catholic school... i told him to stop and he said no...then a 8th grade boy who i have known since i was 3 (our parents are bff's and work toghher) told him to stop cuz my dad would shot him(my dads a cop) and stuff..and the boy that hit my just laughed what should i do?!!?
  • Is My Nephew Cute? Nice Only Please?

    Family - 5 hours ago

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    Hes The Guy With the white shirt on who is surronded by ladys ^.^ he calls them his "buddies" And Remember hes only 11 So back off pedifiles Sowwy Its Sooo Small http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9572/shaneisapimp.jpg And He Is 13 here ---->http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/706/myphotos031.jpg
  • My mom called me fat?!?!?

    Family - 5 hours ago

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    well ya she did...im 13 and 5'3 and 147....i am a ballet dancer so i have alot of muscle...i no im not the skinnest person but am i really fat?...what should i do to not let it get to me.... and the other day my friend yelled to get my attention "hey fatty" ..she said she was kiding but idk.... im not like FAT...i have hips too btw..so im curvy
  • What do Black women mean by this, sorry my english isn't good?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    What do Black women mean by this, sorry my english isn't good? I have a black friend and today we were at mall and he ask a blackgirl out and she said no!! She told him he wasn't street enough and that he need more swagger?? She also said guys without rap sheets need not apply?? What is street and swagger mean?? I mean he has a good job working at the same place for 6 years, house and car, never been in trouble with the law and take care of himself so i don't know exactly what she is saying??
  • I noticed that when you break up and dont have a girlfriend, you save a hell of a alot more money and drama.?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    I just might not look for a girlfriend until after Christmas is done so i dont have to buy them a gift haha!
  • Were not dating and he sent me a text that said I miss you?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    He asked did I miss him too.. I told him the truth, which was no I did not. So why is he so mad? I mean I like talking to him and everything, and it's not that I meant it too be rude but I talk to him everyday so what's there to miss? I know this sounds really harsh, but I can't help the fact that I'm really blunt. My honesty is often misconstrued as being mean. Similar incidents have often happened with this person before so how am I supposed to talk to him? It's like he wants me to tell him what he wants to here (lies). If that's the case sorry. Not having it.
  • Why won't my bf ask me to marry him??? Part 2.?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    We have been together for 4 yrs. In the 1st 6mth's he wanted too(didn't actually have a ring just talked about it a lot) and I didn't cause it was to fast. We have a wonderful relationship. He has taken my son in as his own. We have lived together for 3.5 years. We do almost everything together. When he goes away on trips, like hunting/camping and I ask him questions about it, he automatically resorts to "I don't trust him" and says that is why we are at a stand still. The thing is that I do trust him, I am slightly insecure and a little nosy so I ask questions about their plans, etc. isn't that normal of someone who cares? I think it's an excuse, I don't believe he thinks that. I don't know what to do...I feel used and I am starting to think that he is waiting for someone better. He's really good to me and my son, I hope that's not the case. I am tired of the embarrassment when asked "why hasn't he married you yet?"...now I am asking myself that question. The whole "why buy the cow when the milk is free" is haunting me. I am to afraid to change anything because he is stubborn (so am I) and I am afraid he will just let me go because he will think that I don't want him, it seems too risky. I love the idea of getting away for the weekend, but I already did that, he always misses me alot (calls, texts, etc) right now he is away hunting and he calls and texts me. I usually text him but I really haven't this time cause I don't want to be viewed as none trusting. I'm hurt and I don't know how to get what I want...and if I don't get that I don't think my relationship will stay together since the feeling of insecurity grows inside of me with time :( I don't want to mess this up but I don't want to be just a gf either.
  • Guys... should I tell him or not?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    So... my wonderful boyfriend proposed to me - and I most definitely said yes! The thing is - I don't really like my engagement ring. I didn't tell him - I was just glad to be engaged and figured I would just grow to love the ring - but it's 2 months later and I still don't! Guys I want your perspective cause I really don't want him to be hurt or to think I don't appreciate all the effort he went to in picking it - should I tell him I don't like it or not?!? Should prob mention - We'd both always wanted him to pick the ring for me - so I just asked him to follow 1 rule - "no white gold please"... it's white gold! (he said he forgot! hehe) Plus he gave it to me after the warranty ran out! Oh dear - what to do!?!? Oh - and I do love him and am greatful to be marrying him - that's why I don't want to hurt him! How much I like my engagement ring has nothing to do with how much I love my fiance. I just don't know if I should pretend to like this forever when I really don't!
  • I'm from spain and i want to know why is it that american black women are hard to talk to?

    Singles & Dating - 5 hours ago

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    I was just trying to have a simple conversation with a girl i added on myspace and she for some reason goes off on me!! Is this the typical american black women that are in america? Alot of Spanairds including myself like black women but they come off hard-core and rude for some reason.. This is me and a girl i thought was nice but i think different now about black women, this is the second time i have met another rude one.. 11/23/2009 4:45 PM Dan: Hello, how are you doing today? ♥Successful: who are you? Its Dan from Spain you dont remember me ♥Successful: **** no i dont wtf i dont know you Dan Damn why you blackgirls so rude dude you dont have to say **** …………………………………………………………………… 4:47 PM ♥Successful: sorryy but i dont remember you im not tryna be rude or anything but Your dumb as **** byee now

French Vogue: Models in blackface

Posted Fri, Oct 16, 2009
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Lara Stone in blackface When French Vogue's latest editorial in their October issue hit the media, there was some uproar. The fashion magazine did a spread of model Lara Stone, who is white, done up in blackface. Apart from the question of why Vogue didn't use the handful of famous black models - Naomi, Chanel, Liya, Alek et al, there's the bigger question of "who thought this was a good idea?"

The magazine's photos hit the media not long after the incident in Australia. Five men did a skit called, "Jackson Jive" and they did it in blackface saying it was a tribute. American celebrity Harry Connick Jr. was a guest judge and while Australians cheered, he refused to score the group saying that their performance was in fact, an insult. He said, "I just wanted to say on behalf of my country, I know it was done in humor...but we have spent so much time trying to not make black people look like buffoons, that when we see something like that we take it really to heart." There's also the fact that Connick is from Louisiana where the rescue efforts of Hurricane Katrina were cast in terms of race; and the fact that the Australians haven't been too friendly about the native Aboriginal people. No real excuses there. 

Having that happen and then the Vogue pictures is wrong. Blackface is associated with buffoonery and racism (because black performers could not perform in the same places as white performers). The Vogue pictures take it further and associate blackface with sexuality. There's nothing redeeming about performing in blackface. 

Lara Stone and Carine Roitfeld

But could it be because it did not occur in the United States and because France doesn't share the same history Vogue gets a pass? Maybe, but we all live in a small word - we watch similar shows, we're on the Internet and we communicate in so many different ways that no, French Vogue shouldn't get a pass. Its editor Carine Roitfeld mingles internationally. Perhaps her peers only talk about the latest clothes and compare heel heights, but honestly, she should know better. She's known for her edgy editorials ('pregnant' models smoking in the April issue) but this doesn't scream edgy (for the record, neither does pregnant smoking models) It just says out of touch. 

 Are we too politically correct or should we just shrug and let it go? 

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  • 1. Posted by Andre on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Way way to politically correct, relax, get a life and enjoy. Life is too short to worry about meaningless items like political correctness.

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  • 2. Posted by Kurt&Cat K on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Harry connick should lighten up...not everything is racism, I don't get upset when I watch "White" humor, my Mother was Irish (butt of jokes), my Father is German (Butt of jokes), it's about time differently coloured people grew up and took "Humour" in it's own spirit.Racism is racism but humour is humour.

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  • 3. Posted by Nothern_Pocahontas on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Whatever....the industry is about controversy...models are like actors...you give them the money and you tell them how to pose and give them their costume and as a director all you have to do is tell them how to play the part! Who cares if a ivory skinned model wears a very dark cover up to play the part and who cares if a dark skinned person wears a lot of light colored foundation to look the part...it all about beauty , and not the color of your skin:) beauty lives with in and no exterior or color will change the true inner beauty!

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  • 4. Posted by D B on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I absolutely agree. It's done in a poor taste. Especially in 2009, we should know better. French or not, the editor is lacking a sensitivity chip and obviously her lack of taste is to be questioned.It just doesn't represent Vogue in a positive way. Not progressive at all. Definitely a sad attempt to be original. It completely backfired!

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  • 5. Posted by CM on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I think that pretending history has not happened is what gets us into trouble. We need to look it in the face and learn from it. Donna Summer donned a blond wig, blue contacts and light base makeup for her Mistaken Identity album cover in 1992-93 - no one jumped all over her - and yet it could have been construed as "white-face". It was a statement inspired by Rodney King. Perhaps we need to look at it the same way many women regard drag queens - after the clowning and witty comments, they see drag as a true homage to strong, iconic women - a form of deep respect, actually. Drag artists do Streisand, Garland, Diana Ross, Minnelli, Midler, even Shania and Reba - women of character, and no one loves the show more than the gals in the audience - 'cause they GET IT. Not to mention that most drag artists are gay - and here's another example of a downtrodden community emulating strong heroes and heroines.

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  • 6. Posted by stargate_tonya on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I say they really need to smarten up. Especially in the case of the April issue where they picture a pregnant woman smoking. Hello! Smoking causes health problems in prenatal children and can even lead to still-birth.

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  • 7. Posted by lfb on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    they shouldda just painted her blue

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  • 8. Posted by D B on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    To Kurt&Cat K "Humor" ??? I may be mistaken but I do not believe that the Vogue add was attempting to be humorous... So, if it has been stripped of humor, what are we left with here?

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  • 9. Posted by PAULETTE on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    What Vogue did was wrong on all counts and they shouldn't get a pass, in fact they don't get a pass from me. I find it highly insulting and I'm offended. What era do we live in, it seems that we take a step forward then thirty steps back. We can't shrug this and let it go, what would be next. We cannot forget what we have gone through. I don't take this lightly, I take it personally.

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  • 10. Posted by Asly on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    What ever happened to respect for your fellow man? I am a humanist where all humans have the same rights as any other. When you make a mockery of one group of us, you insult us all. Blackface is not funny, alluring, edgy, sexy or in any way acceptable. I've thought vogue has been out of touch for a very long time with ther emaciated models and warped sense of what makes a woman beautiful, but now they've gone and proved they have no taste, style or decency. It really is a crying shame.

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  • 11. Posted by Ilona on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    If we talk about racism, it will keep the topic in people's minds. Plus this happened in Europe. They don't think about racism because to them it is not an issue...they except everyone the way they are.

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  • 12. Posted by Laurie B on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Its ok for Eddie Murphy to pretend he is white on SNL?, I thought it was funny. Its not the blackface of the 30's and its not meant to hurt. We are way too politically correct these days. We do need to lighten up.

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  • 13. Posted by ♥Peggy-Sue♥ on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    You people are missing the point. What if a black model painted herself white and posed like this? My guess is something derogatory would STILL be said about the black person doing that rather than whatever it was meant to symbolize anyway, (what is she trying to be WHITE now?) so this is no different. Making fun of people these days is a lot more sensitive issue because of the HATRED in this world. We didn't have that kind of hate 30 or 40 years ago. At least it wasn't perpetrated as freely as it is today. Different times.

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  • 14. Posted by Pete on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    she is butt ugly no matter what colour her skin is. Maybe Vogue thought she would look better that way?

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  • 15. Posted by elisadesjardins on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    black is beautiful, so why should people be insulted that this model was proud to be black? It should be a compliment instead of society being overly sensitive. Did we pass the same judgement when the Wayan brothers wore white suits for a movie they filmed as Caucasian twins? No. So chill out.

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  • 16. Posted by PAULETTE on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I think the person who approved this should be fired.

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  • 17. Posted by seanchristop... on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    there are two types of people in the world I hate, 1. those who judge others by the country they live in and 2. the French!

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  • 18. Posted by DSRS3777 on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I think vogue just wanted a completely different look. Obviously there are gorgeous black models but a model with "white" facial features and dark skin tone mixed is not seen so it's new and fresh and very eye catching, makes you look twice. Which, obviously, is the point of the photo, selling the garment. Bravo vogue, interesting concept, and well executed, we are way too politically correct.

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  • 19. Posted by dk1 on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I am not usually against a lot of humour that may involve some envelope pushing, but I agree this went too far. Why not use a black model? It's like saying, "If your black and want to be pretty, you have to have white features" A lot of people are going to jump on me for this, but meh... I don't think, however, that this is the worst thing that a person could have done. Prbably a stern talking to, but I don't think anyone should get fired over this. Plus with vogues other issues like the smoking pregnant woman(Not funny at all given the problems it can cause)... these people like to make off-the-cuff statements.

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  • 20. Posted by Way Station 49 on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    If blackface is 'bad' in American culture, then why did Robert Downey Jr. get approval for his blackface role? See http://tiny.cc/BXHUC I don't feel qualified to voice an opinion. I'm white, and originally a Northern American (north of the Mason Dixon line). My black friends in my life have all been islanders or Africans, so my perspective on this issue is skewed.

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  • 21. Posted by SCOTT T on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    pfft!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! whatever. funny how stuff is called art, no matter how extreme. except when it comes to this crap. whos more racist here? the person who created it or the one pointing it out. the person pointing it out doesnt know the intent. racial thoughts see racism. i see creativity

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  • 22. Posted by Spems on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    I'm not entirely sure that Vogue was trying to 'make fun' of black people. I agree with what CM said about this photo being a homage to the beauty and power of the black woman. I do find it interesting that all the people that are actually offended by this photo are themselves white. Maybe if everyone just relaxed a little and stopped worrying so much about the DIFFERENCES between black and white, racism would start to fade away....

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  • 23. Posted by BARBARA on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    nothing wrong with this! it's art, a celebration of people...we are one, Breath in the beauty of it. people who are offended by this are themselves not comfortable with their own personal feelings. Better they have a personal conversation with themselves and work it out.

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  • 24. Posted by CARLOS on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    it was ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! part of art SHE LOOKS AMAIZING...

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  • 25. Posted by red zinger on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    It's a "so what?" What's the big deal? Who cares? Let the mag do what it wants. Painting a model a different colour is no different than taking a skinny guy and dressing him up as a fat Santa. Is French Vogue's presentation racist? Dear Lord, please take the spare time away from those that view it as racist. Here in the real world, we've been through that racist finger-pointing crap. Get on with life. Welcome to the new-age of tolerance. Looks like a model to me; I didn't notice the colour until it was brought to my attention.

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  • 26. Posted by paulouthwaite on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Lara Stone makes a pretty hot lookin' black person.

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  • 27. Posted by hardandfast13 on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    #2 Your parents were German and Irish? So what if someone referred to your dad as Hitler and goosestepped around every time they saw your father? Or if they referred to your mother as an IRA terrorist? Without knowing anything about you, I know you and your parents would be insulted if someone were to treat you like that. You can not compare people who willingly immigrated to this continent to people who were forcibly kidnapped, sold and treated as livestock. I challenge everyone on this thread to do a little research into slavery. If you actually knew what you were talking about and understood what injustices were done to these people in the name of GOD, I think there would be a little more tolerance towards race relations. If your entire family was kidnapped, forced to work on a wealthy man's farm to the point of exhaustion, were given barely enough food to live, were raped and tortured, and had the same basic rights that chickens do, would you appreciate another country making light of that? Again, the whole point of Black Face was that black people were not allowed on stage with white people. They smeared grease on white people rather than let a black person on stage. We do not need to keep such history alive. We are supposed to learn from our mistakes so we do not repeat them. Slavery was THE BIGGEST MISTAKE in North American history. Let us learn from that mistake. To do otherwise is disgusting.

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  • 28. Posted by swiftgoose on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Vogue's readership is down and they are trying the lowest trick in the book: shock value advertising to remind the public that they are still out there. Shame on them; I hope this backfires. For years they have promoted anorexic appearance, greed and vanity. Time for this magazine to go.

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  • 29. Posted by Will on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    Just wondering, Did the Movie "White Chicks" make headlines for the same reason? I bet not

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  • 30. Posted by scarletpussy on Sat, Oct 17, 2009

    There are aspects in our society that are a little uptight, but there is no excuse for the use of blackface in magazines or on stage at this point in history, ware we have countless sources of education and information and no excuse for ignorance. As the article states, the use of blackface is indicative of segregation, but it dates furtherer back in history, ware the mimicry and ridicule of black men suggested their inability to function adequately in society as free men and justified the institution of slavery. "Jim Crow" popular performance using blackface later became synonymous with the segregation laws. This subject is far too loaded and historically charges to simply be dismissed as matter of humor of lack their of. It's about time we start using our brains instead of just being passively entertained

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