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  • what are you thankful for this thanksgiving?

    Weddings - 4 hours ago

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    i have to go get my turkey and go over the river and thru the woods to my mother in laws house but wanted to wish all of you fellow esteemed posters and all you brides happy thanksgiving. even though sometimes family can be diffiicult, on thanksgiving we are all happy to have family, and all of us have so much to truly be thankful for.
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    Marriage & Divorce - 4 hours ago

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    i need to go get my turkey but wanted to wish all of you angry, hilarious, clever posters and cheaters and dingdongs and abused wives a wonderful blessed thanksgiving because all of us, no matter what else is going on, really do have so much to be thankful for.
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    I'm married, and so is my friend. Sometimes we go out for a drink or lunch or something. My husband always knows were I am and who I am with. Recently, I heard my friend on the phone with his wife saying he was with someone else and going somewhere else. I'm not telling any lies, but I guess he is. Am I doing anything wrong? It made me sad that his wife doesn't recognize our friendship. I know her and he knows my husband. I have known both him ad his wife for 15 years--that's before they got together. The 4 of us have spent plenty of time together over the years. She and I have also been out for drinks together.
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Oh Jon Gosselin, how low can you go?

Posted Mon, Oct 05, 2009
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When Jon Gosselin went on Larry King Live and declared that he wanted his kids off 'Jon and Kate plus eight' who didn't roll their eyes at the suspicious timing? Here was a man who spent the last few months wearing Ed Hardy and partying like a frat boy secure in the knowledge that money was coming into his pocket thanks to the show.

Jon GosselinIt was only when TLC announced that the show was going to be called "Kate plus eight" and Jon was going to have a reduced presence on the show that Jon suddenly became a concerned father and issued a cease-and-desist order towards the show. We of course don't really know his motivations, but the fact that he wanted to reconcile with Kate the day after his source of income dried up is suspicious in itself. Now there's the rumour that Jon has drained their joint account of several hundred thousand dollars.

That does move him from 'vaguely suspicious' to "really? He actually did that?" with a touch of "hmm... not really surprised based on his previous behaviour."

Jon's coming across as immature and childish when he should be acting like an adult with eight young children. Even if he claims the money is still for his kids, we're wondering, who's going to believe him?

 

-- Renee

 

 

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  • 1. Posted by efstratia83 on Mon, Oct 05, 2009

    This article is very well written. I agree with the "co-incidences" that are pointed out. I do have to say that Jon needs to SERIOUSLY re-think his actions. He has been a bad father to his 8 BEAUTIFUL children through his actions or lack there of in some instances. Now he's hurting them financially as well? Shame on him! What a POOR excuse of a man! On top of that, people need to stop crashing down on Kate. Ok, we all know she's not perfect, but she's a good mom overall. We have all said and done things to our kids that would not have looked so great in other people's eyes and we may regret an occurence or two in retrospect but WE'RE HUMAN. SHE'S HUMAN. It happens. The only difference is that she's got millions of people knowing her business and judging her. Her choice? Sure. But I'm sure she didn't expect things to become the way they have. The way this woman runs a tight ship with 8 kids, my hat's off to her! Jon was nothing more than a ninth child and so he was treated. His selfish and irresponsible behaviour after their split goes to show you that it was Kate that was keeping him in check as a parent and husband. I just really hope that he smartens up for his children's sake or they'll end up resenting him later on. He's acting like an immature teenager who left home too soon and can't seem to get his act together. Loser!

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  • 2. Posted by binky.girl66 on Mon, Oct 05, 2009

    OMG. I am so glad that other people are finally seeing what I saw a long time ago. I was married to someone just like Jon and had the same "reputation" as Kate. Trust me if you were married to Jon you would be a [profane] too. His recent actions have just confirmed what I have always thought of him. He is a lying, scumbag who leeches off of his wife and will screw anything that comes along. Any person who would steal from his own children is not a man by any stretch of that words definition and I hope people finally leave Kate alone. She is not perfect but she is not the mean, controlling person she was made out to be either. When you are married to a child, you treat them like a child and people who only see that part of the interaction of course get the wrong impression and you look like the "bad guy". Isn't it convenient that he has had this sudden change of heart after he steals all of their money and loses his job leeching off of his wife and children. What I believe is that people like Jon eventually get what they deserve in life and what I have always said is that children are not stupid, they know who is "there" for them, who is the parent that loves them and who really cares for them and when the children grow up hating him and resenting him I am positive he will blame it on everyone else just like he does not but he has no one to blame but himself. What kind of man goes on tv a month after his wife files for divorce and says he loves his new girlfriend more than he ever loved his wife of ten years...his children will hear that someday and that will not make them love Kate less...just Jon.

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  • 3. Posted by leprecaun28 on Mon, Oct 05, 2009

    This guy is a tool. Another report says he's just cleaned out the bank account leaving $1000. That'll last a week. WTF does he think he's doing? He is not helping his kids....he's helped himself who seems to be the most important person in his life.....what a jacka*@

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  • 4. Posted by Nix2 on Mon, Oct 05, 2009

    Jon is an idiot. That has been well-established according to multiple reports and his withdrawal of the funds from a joint account only provse his lack of integrity. BUT... I doubt very much that Kate, a control freak and horrible person in her own right, would leave all the funds in a joint account. Now, she is complaining of being broke, but I think she is lying. I think she is more selfish than to reveal all her income to an ex-husband that wants nothing to do with her. Kate is the woman who in her early twenties had the procedure done because she ~wanted~ multiples for the freebies. In my opinion, she was far too young for that kind of procedure particularly since her and her husband were not that financially stable at the time. When the state and community stopped giving what they wanted (i.e. she asked for only "matching sets" of things versus what the community would give) she complained. The state even created trust funds for their eight kids. Do a bit of research on Kate's history in Pennsylvania. She isn't an angel. There is no doubt in my mind that Kate is the manipulative monster who always planned to exploit her children, and Jon is the idiot who went along with it all. Neither one is innocent and both are despicable human beings. This isn't about Kate versus Jon. This is about Kate and Jon doing a huge disservice to their children on many levels.

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  • 5. Posted by patricis100 on Tue, Oct 06, 2009

    Oh my gosh, I agree totally with Nix2...there is more to Kate than we know...it just means that her "PR" people are better then Jon's! She had a supportive family and community, but somehow they weren't good enough for her now that she is in the money! She is an insult to all the moms that have children and somehow manage on their own.....it is NOT our responsibility to provide for her children! On another vain.....think of all the moms and kids out there - are they going on spa days, to the beach, having public exhibits closed just for them to enjoy, etc. etc....Kate needs to get real....yes Jon is a dissapointment but how many women have children and divorce---to many but they don't whine on TV.....honestly they are just as bad as each other and they are BOTH equally making the children suffer

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  • 6. Posted by Gwennie on Tue, Oct 06, 2009

    we need to stop caring about these people. the world is full of people with big families who love each other and work and suffer hardship to provide. they are both spoiled prima donnas who need to go away and grow up.

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  • 7. Posted by BoyNextDoor on Tue, Oct 06, 2009

    Another famous for nothing, Paris Hilton type garbage

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  • 8. Posted by phat on Tue, Oct 06, 2009

    Both these people are selfish & airing their dirty laundry for the world & their poor kids to see is unthinkable. Each one tries to get in the best dig. Kate is not broke by any means, she has a best selling book right now, she travels 1st class. She has expensive haircuts, plastic surgery,pedicures, manicures, trips to the spa etc. etc. They both need to smarten up before their poor, impressionable little children are ruined for life. My heart goes out to their kids. Grow up Jon & Kate & put the children 1st. Stay off T.V. Go into hiding for the kids sake.

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  • 9. Posted by lovethelibrary99 on Wed, Oct 07, 2009

    Jon and Kate are both disgusting. I've never understood why people often want to villify just one or the other. Obviously, they were totally in synch when it came to exploiting their kids for money, vacations, plastic surgery, teeth whitening, hair plugs, ad nauseum. They are both totally superficial, out-for-everything-they-can-get at the expense of their children con artists and shillers. Did any of you see the Say Yes to the Dress episode where Kate was choosing a (free, of course) wedding gown for her vow renewal? She couldn't tear her eyes off herself. I've never seen any "bride" on that show as narcissistic as Kate. Jon, of course, in no different. They're on TV to make money and get free stuff. Their kids are an ends to that means. If they truly cared only about providing for their kids, they'd have a modest home-- I know very happy families who raised 10 kid in homes half the size of the Gosselin's new house-- and with small yards. The simple truth is that kids don''t the vacations, excursions, matching outfits, individualized playhouses, etc., etc. All they need are parents with morals and values who put them first and who love them and are fiercely devoted to being good role models. I hope Jon catches genital warts and that Kate's continuing obsession with plastic surgery turns her into a Joan Rivers clone.,

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  • 10. Posted by chrislabelle49 on Wed, Oct 07, 2009

    We finally see jon's true colors. Now that he is being dumped from the show; he is panicking because the gravy train is over for him. With the divorce Kate can make all the money and keep it and raise the children on her own without jon. Revenge and jealousy is now in jon's heart. That is why he is trying to put a stop to the continuation of the show. But, I predict that no matter where Kate ends up, she will succeed and flourish. She is a winner and she will continue to be a winner. Poor Jon. Can't make it on his own.

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  • 11. Posted by Beverley on Thu, Oct 08, 2009

    fOR THE FIRST TIME IN THER MARRIED LIFE JON IS VENTURING OUT HIMSELF.HE IS LIKE A TEENAGER IN HIS 1ST. YEAR AWAY FROM THE PARENTS,ITS TOO BAD 8 CHILDREN ARE BETWEEN JON GETTING MARRIED & JON BEING A INDEPENDENT PERSON.15 MIN OF FAME IS JUST ABOUT OVER!JON & KATE WILL BE JUST FINE WITH ALL THE MONEY THEY ARE MAKING FROM ALL THIS GARBAGE WE ARE LISTING TO.I REALLY WONDER IS ALL THIS JUST TO KEEP THEM IN THE NEWS?????

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  • 12. Posted by liz on Thu, Oct 08, 2009

    What a dirt bag!

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  • 13. Posted by red rose on Sun, Oct 11, 2009

    it has all been said. good or bad nothing to add same story all over .

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  • 14. Posted by jonbojo on Sun, Oct 11, 2009

    Ok, now, Jon had a huge house, a great job and supported this family before the fame of the show. In previous episodes she was turning it into a 'Let's see who can make the kids like them better' contest. She is a Witch. I would still bang her(with about 3 condoms on). How responsible is it to use fertility pills after you already had a history of having twins? Just a white version of Octomom!!! Good luck Jon.

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  • 15. Posted by jonbojo on Sun, Oct 11, 2009

    Ok, now, Jon had a huge house, a great job and supported this family before the fame of the show. In previous episodes she was turning it into a 'Let's see who can make the kids like them better' contest. She is a Witch. I would still bang her(with about 3 condoms on). How responsible is it to use fertility pills after you already had a history of having twins? Just a white version of Octomom!!! Good luck Jon.

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  • 16. Posted by Anne 2 on Sun, Oct 11, 2009

    Children do not need matching clothes, and scripted lives, they need to do their own thing, like read a book, climb a tree, make mud pies, get dirty. They do not need a luxury home, with a Mothers who is gone half the time to boost her book sales, They should ditch the home and buy a nice big farm. Raise chickens, cows, the children could feed the chickens, collect the eggs, have an egg route, milk cows, sell milk, Raise a vegetable garden, Kate could lay off the make up artists, and having her hair done each morning, and learn to blanch and can or freeze the vegetables. Or she could go back to being a nurse, and Jon could stay with the kids as he did for all those years, while Kate went on book tours. I bet Aunt Jody would love to help out, and Kate disowned her father a minister when a friend of the fathers, gave her a van to drive the children. Opps, wrong color for Kate, she gave it back. I bet Kates Father would love to see his grandchildren again. Has anyone noticed that Kate has no family she invites to her home? Yes Jon cheated, but I remember when Kate told him on national TV that he breathed to loudly. No wonder he went elsewhere. Other people have large families and manage, and they do not have eleven bank accounts, and have to exploit their offspring. Take the camera's out of those poor childrens faces.

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  • 17. Posted by bear-kwee on Tue, Oct 13, 2009

    all the comments made "who has clean hands?"

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  • 18. Posted by Anne 2 on Sun, Oct 11, 2009

    Children do not need matching clothes, and scripted lives, they need to do their own thing, like read a book, climb a tree, make mud pies, get dirty. They do not need a luxury home, with a Mothers who is gone half the time to boost her book sales, They should ditch the home and buy a nice big farm. Raise chickens, cows, the children could feed the chickens, collect the eggs, have an egg route, milk cows, sell milk, Raise a vegetable garden, Kate could lay off the make up artists, and having her hair done each morning, and learn to blanch and can or freeze the vegetables. Or she could go back to being a nurse, and Jon could stay with the kids as he did for all those years, while Kate went on book tours. I bet Aunt Jody would love to help out, and Kate disowned her father a minister when a friend of the fathers, gave her a van to drive the children. Opps, wrong color for Kate, she gave it back. I bet Kates Father would love to see his grandchildren again. Has anyone noticed that Kate has no family she invites to her home? Yes Jon cheated, but I remember when Kate told him on national TV that he breathed to loudly. No wonder he went elsewhere. Other people have large families and manage, and they do not have eleven bank accounts, and have to exploit their offspring. Take the camera's out of those poor childrens faces.

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  • 19. Posted by Resty on Wed, Oct 14, 2009

    Why are people wasting their time reading avoid this GARBAGE???

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  • 20. Posted by Layla on Thu, Oct 22, 2009

    Nix2: At last I find an unbiased analysis, if you will, of the situation, I don't claim I have been following closely, and there may be similar opinions if I continued, but you at least are putting two and two together and getting a four! Wasn't it Kate who admitted that she took 400 thousand away, but returned it when ordered to do so? (I heard her admit that.) May be this was after the date of your posting. But you are right. There is no way that someone like Kate would EVER let anyone take advantage of her. Especially someone like Jon who really strikes me as the more trusting type. I mean, I believe she arranged her life before asking him to leave, and this is more in keeping of my opinion of her. It is also hard to believe that their account of over 200,000.00 is for routine every day expenses. As stated by Jon later, she had eleven other accounts and he left every thing in that department to her. THAT I tend to believe. All in all, as you say, at this point neither is innocent, but there is no way I can put Jon at the same level as Kate from the manipulative point of view! Why does every one forget that he stayed home and took care of the kids while she was away promoting her books etc. which as I understand was most of the time, and the revenues of which do not seem to be shared. Who would not break under this sort of pressure, man OR woman? It is true everything he does is questionable now, but that is more due to his innocence, and in my opinion to a more refined upbringing that Kate's. That is all I got to say. P.S. Did you hear her CRY when calling the View, that she NEEDED the job? I found that so comic that at first it made me suspect the whole thing was a ploy so she increases her chances of getting a job on TV. ? Well, that is what I thought when it happened.

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