Nice guys

1. Posted by andrew198004 on Sat, Oct 20, 2007

I think you're crazy if you think you're better off living a life with someone who is unpredictable, overly aggressive and argumentative. Smart people listen more than they talk, solve problems with their brains instead of their fists, aswell as have the sense to treat others how they want to be treated. Where do women get the idea that a bad boy is a challenge to figure out and change? Talk about elevating your daily stress level. Maybe nice guys are predictible, like paying the bills on time and taking the garbage out. Or how about showing up on time for supper and keeping a job that he might not love to support his family and children for 30-40 years. People have such short attention spans, they fail to realize the impact of the things in their lives that they rely on everyday that are predictable. You wouldn't keep a cellphone that gave you problems every single day. I guess you can't argue with a cellphone and convince it into working either. Why bother with someone who will cause you nothing but stress and drama? Is the drama and stress a turn-on?

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2. Posted by sugarsugden on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

I have been told that women like to date good boys, but sleep with bad boys. I have also been told that women believe that bad boys are better in bed. Something about being dangerous and what not. I used to be a bad boy and met my girlfriend at that time. Bar fights and partying all the time. I quit drinking and partying about 6 years ago and, i guess, have turned into a good boy. The girlfriend i had at the time is now my wife. The sex is as good as it has ever been and now i don't get in trouble with the law and pay the mortgage and other bills on time. I guess what i am trying to say is maybe women try to change that bad boy into a good boy for the reasons i metioned above, but keep the sex part of the relationship still hot. My wife would say tat she has the best of both worlds. Great sex and maturity and responsibily from her man. Just my 2 cents.

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3. Posted by moe_hosny on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

I think the bottom line is that women do not want to see or feel a man is so worried about her leaving him, or not interested in dating him. This is a turnoff. A confident man does not give a damn if a woman wants him or not. If not, God Bless her...move on.If yes, then he treats her well.

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4. Posted by like funny stories on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

the reality is not that most women falling for the bad guy want a challenge. it's that they themselves are mentally challenged LOL what else can you account for the number of women falling for the mean selfish SOB who cannot be relied on. who cheats flirts and lies to his woman at every single wimp. yet the women puts up with all that sh*t! how else can you account for this except that birds of a feather flock together. they are the losers, they have so little self esteem that they prefer to be tormented with a heartless man, instead of being with a man who is faithful and can be relied on when he gives her his word to do something, something gets done. face it, it's not the challenge... but just the fact that losers crave to be losers all their lives, so they associate with the losers. call a spade a spade, will you? LOL.

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5. Posted by sugarsugden on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

I have been told that women like to date good boys, but sleep with bad boys. I have also been told that women believe that bad boys are better in bed. Something about being dangerous and what not. I used to be a bad boy and met my girlfriend at that time. Bar fights and partying all the time. I quit drinking and partying about 6 years ago and, i guess, have turned into a good boy. The girlfriend i had at the time is now my wife. The sex is as good as it has ever been and now i don't get in trouble with the law and pay the mortgage and other bills on time. I guess what i am trying to say is maybe women try to change that bad boy into a good boy for the reasons i metioned above, but keep the sex part of the relationship still hot. My wife would say tat she has the best of both worlds. Great sex and maturity and responsibily from her man. Just my 2 cents.

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6. Posted by not a rap fan on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

i am a nice guy and i know enough girls who enjoy being with nice guys. nice guys do get laid too, except we don't go around telling everyone about it, or exaggerate about what we do in the bedroom. the girls who like bad guys, are just like them... ultimate thickheads who really have no self confidence in themselves so they cannot feel anything about anyone besides themselves. in my opinion, and the opinions of the nice girls i know, the reason why girls enjoy being laid by bad guys are that they are in reality girls with very little grey matter between their ears, and have very little consideration for no one, even themselves. so they fall for the same mean types as they are. i think , or we think, they deserve each other, because if all they want in life is to be tormented and be waiting for him to come home, to be punched around like a punching bad, just so they can feel wanted... hmm, perharps, you should find a shrink. LOL.

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7. Posted by hockey_canadianstyle on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

Some of us girls leared a long time ago that the nice guys are few and far between. If you can find one, hold on for dear life. If I am ever lucky enough to come across one, I sure will.

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8. Posted by stevelabelle123 on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

Ok lets make it simple. Most nice guys that are nice, usually are cute or average in looks . What they lack in LOOKS!!! they make up for, by trying to be perfect. Face it most women go for Bad boys cause their hot. They have big confidence, muscles , tattoos , tans or maybe their hair is long and bleached or their just plain old hot. These guys get hit on by more NICE girls all the time . Their so used to chicks that wanna hook with up them their egos swell. Women created their own destiny and same with man. Listen men and women are attracted physically and mentally. When your in a public place looking at one and other with no words only physical attraction will work . General consensus but not all. Nice guy = cute to average looks. Bad = ravaging sex machine !!!!awake all night. But how many girls marry bad boys? none! They all marry the average looking blokes with the most cash . They think of their children's future surely and i would never blame them either . . Whats worse wanting a trophy wife or having to be one . Id say wanting a trophy wife is worse but their seems to be allot of suckers out there so its looks like a balance. But when you hear a guy say "but im so nice" , LOOK at him!! is he HOT, I doubt it cause if he was , their would be 20 phone numbers in his black book. Face it nice guy your NICE but your not HOT .I hang out with my one friend and he literally has to push girls away at the bar .Its no wonder he is always cheating and breaking up with his girlfriends . Girls are no worse than men, at wanting whats hot. .

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9. Posted by Sheldon R on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

I read every comment left here and it is pretty impressive. Those that came here and then decided to comment, is a clear thinking, expressive and funny! Now me, I liked the article and thought it had some bullseye thruth. But so did the comments above.:)

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10. Posted by imtheguyurlookingfor on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

It's a known fact that most girls are attracted to Bad Boys "LOSERS". Eighter it's because there self esteem are so low, or that they don't believe that a good ,kind ,reliable guys would want to stay whit them." Wake Up Ladies We Nice Guys Are Here To Stay"

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11. Posted by eappiah80 on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

the problem here is the media, these young ladies go for the bad guys cause the media saids that they are the cool ones to hang with and party with. these guys are the one who skip class and go around the corner to smoke their weed and do other things and girls are turn on by these guys with their "I don't care ways of living life" meanwhile the good guys are consider to be the nerds cause they are always in class and studyin hard so they can get a better job and better themself for the future. For most woman these are boring to them and they don't give them the time of the day. but lets fast-forward 5 years into the future, where life gets hard and these woman reliaze that they need to get their life together and who they go? the nerds, who happens to be the soo call "nice guys that they say don't want" now they want these nice guys to take of them now cause they have been abuse left and right by the "bad boy" that couldn't live with. So they do want the good guy but they only them when they are ready to settle down and have a a life.

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12. Posted by eappiah80 on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

the problem here is the media, these young ladies go for the bad guys cause the media saids that they are the cool ones to hang with and party with. these guys are the one who skip class and go around the corner to smoke their weed and do other things and girls are turn on by these guys with their "I don't care ways of living life" meanwhile the good guys are consider to be the nerds cause they are always in class and studyin hard so they can get a better job and better themself for the future. For most woman these are boring to them and they don't give them the time of the day. but lets fast-forward 5 years into the future, where life gets hard and these woman reliaze that they need to get their life together and who they go? the nerds, who happens to be the soo call "nice guys that they say don't want" now they want these nice guys to take of them now cause they have been abuse left and right by the "bad boy" that couldn't live with. So they do want the good guy but they only them when they are ready to settle down and have a a life.

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13. Posted by justinottawau on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

Good article! well put! now does that same thing apply for nice girls? You know those girls who are soooo nice to the guy all the time and get burnt or walked over in the process. Us men also like to chase down the girl

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14. Posted by Tiffanie on Sat, Oct 27, 2007

I agree to almost every comment that had posted except for blaming the media. It goes back to your own self estem. What you are worth. I see this in myself and both men and women. For years I never see myself what I am worth. And so I wasn't able to stand up for myself. "I'm worth more then this." I have seen a guy let his girlfriend yelled at him because he called her at the wrong time. Hearing her yelling on the phone "Look I told you that I'm busy. How many times have I told you not to call me when I'm busy" Self estem and knowing what you are worth is easier said then done. When a person realize what he/she is worth, then that person will not have a problem of finding an other "bad guy" or "bad girl". Knowing what you are worth is one thing but not enjoying beening with yourself. Will put you in that same rut too. Afraid of beening a lone is another thing that will keep a girl / guy with someone that doesn't really treat good. I was also in a relationship where I was too afraid of beening alone and did not know what I am worth. So I just let him be and took care of him. I am lucky that I have good friends that help me realized what I am worth.

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15. Posted by like funny stories on Mon, Oct 29, 2007

touche! #20. and for every one before . it's all about self esteem, isn't it? if you're empty , that inconsiderate tough guy will be just the thing you need to feel needed, as you feel worthless and feel you deserve all the abuse he can dish out to you. if you feel you are garbage, you will enjoy being treated like garbage. as for the internet and finding or rumaging for the "perfect" relationship, ... LOL it's all a fantasy like putting a child in a toyshop. you think your nice guy is boring and you can go to the net to order a brad pitt meets gozilla, and pop in a fill bucks, and your dream guy is ready to screw up your good relationship with your nice guy. so wonderful! it's like visual masturbation, isn't it? so perfect... until you wake up to the nightmare! oh so pathetic! good article though, as for what it's worth, at least we bring out the stench of the dirty laundry... time to open the windows, and toss the useless into the garbage where he belongs. LOL

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16. Posted by To Be Announced on Sat, Nov 17, 2007

I see some real insight here. Poster # 20 says it well, but this is how I like to put it: I can be the nicest guy in the world, but if you wrong me I can and will be the meanest mother F%$^#^ you would never want to know. The only reason why my ex still draws breath is because I have a son, my going to prison would do nothing but hurt him and he does not deserve that. I am both a nice person and an a$$, it all depends on how I am treated.

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17. Posted by druid6900 on Sat, Nov 17, 2007

First of all, you people seem to have a stereotypical idea of what a "bad boy" is. Hulking, tattooed, knuckles-dragging-on-the ground, drunken, illiterate loser. SOME of them are. Others of us are intelligent, educated, successful, non-drinking, non-violent (but trained to handle ourselves) confident individuals. What makes us "bad" is that we are willing to take the risks that others aren't; in business, in sports, in life. We'll take that leap for the Golden Ring. We'll not be pushed around, or hen-pecked or "changed". We don't break the rules, we MAKE them. I, personally, neither look nor act like the stereotypical "bad boy", but I am one. I have confidence in my abilities, know what I want and go after it, and don't take crap from anyone. I don't hand it out, I'm sure as hell not going to take it. Most of us are self-employed, self-made, and, when a risk doesn't pan out, and we lose everything, we pick ourselves up, dust off and start again. Self-assured, we don't NEED looks to attract a woman, it's the package, not the wrapping. Any woman that WOULD be attracted to our "looks" would be much too shallow to come for the ride. And women are welcome along for the ride, which, by the way, is calculated, not wild, and there IS a difference. It's called intelligence. The ability to determine if the pay-off is worth the risks. To go for the high-risk, big pay-out start-up rather than sink money into a nice, safe Blue-Chip thing. We aren't gamblers because that's a sucker's bet. We don't get falling down drunk because we don't need alcohol to boost our egos. We don't brawl because we ca

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18. Posted by bomac53 on Sat, Nov 17, 2007

I find that the main thing in this dialogue is that is mainly men expressing their feelings and not getting enough feedback from women on this issue. I myself am the dreaded nice guy and I find that if I express my views on this in a public situation the women instantly shut me down and are not willing to talk to me any further.I can also guarentee that if I pursue it that I will go home again alone as the nice guy.Having said that I find that it is sad that men and women are not able to connect with each other outside of how we are told we are supposed to.I am an older man and I have had a variety of relationships with women. Some were the joys of my life and some sucked the life and soul out me.Welcome to life.Stop being so judgemental and realiaze that we are basically searching for the same connection. Women do have to understand that men do have many of the emotions and feellings that you have and that denigrating that by going for only the men that at least apparently are lacking in that area ultimately hurts us all.

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19. Posted by Chris on Sat, Nov 17, 2007

#24 has a point: "In other words, women are immature and not very bright (to put it mildly...), correct? Hmmm. Yeap..." Pretty much. They wise up after they have kids. But for some, like Brit Spears, it'll never happen. Some never learn you know. But most do.

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20. Posted by To Be Announced on Sun, Nov 18, 2007

Hmm, obviously a quick scan of the posts was not enough for you Thunder. Perhaps you could READ my post before calling me a criminal. I have committed no crime, nor did I state that I did. I am a decent upstanding member of society, I have a good job and I take care of business as needed. I have no significant other because I really don't think that there is a truly decent woman out there that deserves a great guy like myself. Don't get me wrong, I am well aware of the fact that I am not perfect, no one person is. Now, I must state that I AM a good-looking man; I know this to be true because women tell me so. I have a well-built body, decent form all around and nice buns, to put it plainly. Women have told me so, numerous times. I treat all people with the same respect that I want to receive, even when they don't deserve it! I AM A NICE GUY! I know who I am and what I want out of life and I am doing my best to get it, save for the one thing that is absolutely impossible to acquire, TRUE love. I want it just as much as the next person but I also refuse to delude myself into thinking that it actually exists. I have come to this conclusion after much consideration and observation. Women don't go for us nice guys because there is simply no challenge or excitement in having what they want. They want someone that they can change. It equates to the proverbial feather in the cap when they succeed in turning a bad boy into a nice 'enough' guy. Now I hope that I did not lose anyone with my vocabulary or sentence structure. Not mentioning any names..........THUNDER. Report this as abuse if you want, it really makes no difference to me, and it will simply display your lack of maturity and inability to receive criticism. By the way, have a nice day.

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21. Posted by Saturn on Sun, Nov 18, 2007

I like nice guys if they aren't doormats. The problem is that some have no personality and so it is like talking to a "yes-man." You still have to be yourself that is the whole purpose of dating so that BOTH can really get to know each other.

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22. Posted by shauna na on Sun, Nov 18, 2007

I would like to know where these "nice guys" are?? I'm sure a lot of woman will agree...they don't exist and if they do they are usually married or gay. Which of course, as a single woman, doesn't do us any good. The bad boy thing was fun in my 20's, but now in my 30's I want the guy that is going to hold my hand and be nice and kind, no games...basically the opposite of the bad boy. But WHERE ARE THEY??!!! If you are out there and you do exist, can you come out of the woodwork and go public with your "nice" self!! There are geniune, good woman out there that are waiting!!

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23. Posted by shauna na on Sun, Nov 18, 2007

I would like to know where these "nice guys" are?? I'm sure a lot of woman will agree...they don't exist and if they do they are usually married or gay. Which of course, as a single woman, doesn't do us any good. The bad boy thing was fun in my 20's, but now in my 30's I want the guy that is going to hold my hand and be nice and kind, no games...basically the opposite of the bad boy. But WHERE ARE THEY??!!! If you are out there and you do exist, can you come out of the woodwork and go public with your "nice" self!! There are geniune, good woman out there that are waiting!!

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24. Posted by ghostrider1225 on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

I agree. Nice guys finish last. I'm tired of women being catered to. This is not the 1900's. Women claim that they are as sexual as we are. Why play games. They can be as successful with their careers and everything else. I hold them up to their end of the bargain. I will tell them that if they are looking for a Feminized man they can keep moving. There's plenty of women to go around and men should be confidence not cocky! Stand your ground and tell her what you want, if she refuses leave to the next person. Never tolerate or play the nice guy because they'll call you their brother or friend. You are done. Be nice, but don't let her take advantage and walk all over you.

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25. Posted by ghostrider1225 on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

This confirms what guys have been saying all along. Why do women leave their nice guy for a bad boy. A bad boy will put his foot down, would not tolerate her childish behavior, tell her what he wants and women always fall for them. All the Feminist BS has not effected a bad boy. More power to them!!!!

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26. Posted by swf_sll on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

As a woman, I have to agree most with #26 druid6900. The point is that women are attracted to confident men. Let's face it, people are attracted to confident people! From my personal experience, the men I have been most attracted to have been successful, assertive, very smart, funny, fit and extremely confident -and not very good looking. These men, you call "bad boys", become (get labeled as) arrogant jerks when we (women) get mad because "he" didn't pick us. Sadly, women still hang in there. We try to change his mind about us and convince him to pick us. "Can't you see how sweet I am"? Then they treat us bad because we won't let go. Geez, get over it and move on.

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27. Posted by trendz on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

This is for all of the nice guys, i am a con and a user, liar and totally unpredictable when it comes to women i get more than i can handle and in fact i get easily bored with women as they are too far to easy to bieng bedded without the usual nice guy crap lines. Be bad indifferent and they will line up at the door wanting more of the same. I usually go out with 7 women at the time and renew my female stockpile everty month. I do not chase as they chase me, i do not use boring lines dress in the tens and get them to take me out. Musles? hell i don't even have that just a indifferent attitude that women love, hell! even the good looks are missing and i do very well. It has something to do with endorphines you have em or you don't. I have what they want and that is sensuality, sex appeal and the air of mystery. Tonite i had three dates and they can wait as i have put them off with feeble excuses and guess what they will be calling me again and again...be good and you get what you deserve, NOTHING!

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28. Posted by forex313 on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

For all those women that say they want a nice guy. I say hogwash. Time after time women choose to be with people that treat them badly and they continue to return. Then they keep that thought in the back of their mind I wish I could find a nice guy. The reason women get stuck in bad relationships with bad boys is because that is what they want. Enough of the excuses already. You get what you deserve and dont try blaming your problems on the fact you cant find a nice guy. In the back of your mind you dont want a nice guy and probably never will. Start being honest with yourself and I think eventually you might find what you want but until that happens the excuses continue and will not stop any time soon

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29. Posted by KraziFlowrBaybee on Thu, Nov 29, 2007

All the so-called nice guys who are not getting dates are probably not unable to attract women *because* they are "too nice." If you're having trouble, look at yourself - are you genuinely happy with who you are? If so, you will probably find a healthy relationship. If you are insecure, you will probably have a disfunctional relationship or non at all. Same goes for insecure women (who might go for a bad boy). As soon as a guy says 'women always like bad boys, that's why I can't find one,' I think he's blaming others for his problems instead of taking responsibility for himself. Not attractive.

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30. Posted by on Fri, Nov 30, 2007

Hmm..let's see now - a few days ago we got relationship advice fom a manipulative slamhound and today we get relationship advice from someone who used to display her rather lengthy list of bedroom hijinks in a cheap newspaper. Goes to show ya can't believe or trust something just because it's in print.

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